I heard about them wanting to leave operating system business and focus more in Azure. It makes sense in two aspects: (1) more and more businesses (seems to) are moving to using cloud services, and (2) hearing that Windows 10 will be the last major release and just continuing to improve on it.

There is a rumor going around that there could be a possibility that Windows could be open source, but I heard no official confirmation. It would seem to be the case when they made .NET Core, MSBuild, ASP.NET Core, and Powershell Core all open source. I guess there could be some truth to that, and one could say that Microsoft could open up Windows, but again, I saw nothing official about it.

I haven't heard about Windows possibly going open-source, but I've heard speculation that Microsoft might go to a subscription model for Windows. If that's the case, I imagine many (more) people would want to switch to another platform. I would most likely want to use something else rather than pay a recurring fee to use my own computer. Windows is my main OS, but I've been liking Mint Linux these days..

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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: jagossel to Nightfox on Tue Feb 14 2017 09:36 am

I have heard the same subacription-based Windows rumor as well. I am OK with it as it implies renting a license for Windows and constantly getting the latest updates. If Microsoft does go down the route if doing a subscription, I will have to see how much they are going to charge. My

I just don't like the idea of paying a subscription to use an operating system. The OS is a key part of a computer, so an OS subscription would mean that if I miss a payment, then I can't use my computer at all. After spending money to buy a computer, I'd still like to be able to at least use it for something.

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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: jagossel to Nightfox on Tue Feb 14 2017 09:36 am

I have heard the same subacription-based Windows rumor as well. I am OK with it as it implies renting a license for Windows and constantly getting the latest updates. If Microsoft does go down the route if doing a subscription, I will have to see how much they are going to charge. My

I just don't like the idea of paying a subscription to use an operating system. The OS is a key part of a computer, so an OS subscription would mean that if I miss a payment, then I can't use my computer at all.
After spending money to buy a computer, I'd still like to be able to at least use it for something.

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I can almost guaruntee that Microsoft will nag you to death with notifications if they decide to go to a subscription-based OS. They are darn good of it now.
Disabling notifications is a bear in Windows 10.

With that said, I use Microsoft products sparingly in my home. My kids use *nix, wife is MS bound. There are a few game I have to dual-boot into Win7 to play. Jay's Cafe' is run on Win7 (for simplicity). But all remaining internet services are *nix-based.


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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: Nightfox to jagossel on Mon Feb 20 2017 01:36 pm

Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: jagossel to Nightfox on Tue Feb 14 2017 09:36 am

I have heard the same subacription-based Windows rumor as well. I am OK with it as it implies renting a license for Windows and constantly gett the latest updates. If Microsoft does go down the route if doing a subscription, I will have to see how much they are going to charge. My

I just don't like the idea of paying a subscription to use an operating syst The OS is a key part of a computer, so an OS subscription would mean that if miss a payment, then I can't use my computer at all. After spending money t buy a computer, I'd still like to be able to at least use it for something.

Nightfox

I am glad I have Linux to fall back on, Microsoft is getting way to greedy.
I still use windows 7 on my Desktop but run all my servers on Ubuntu Linux.

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I am glad I have Linux to fall back on, Microsoft is getting way to greedy.
I still use windows 7 on my Desktop but run all my servers on Ubuntu Linux.

Yes, I'm glad I have a familiarity with Linux. If Microsoft starts charging a subscription fee for Windows, I think I'll end up switching to Linux. Mint Linux is currently my favorite distro, but I also like OpenSUSE (also back when it was just SuSE).

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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: Nightfox to Denn Gray on Fri Mar 17 2017 12:38 pm

I am glad I have Linux to fall back on, Microsoft is getting way to greedy.
I still use windows 7 on my Desktop but run all my servers on Ubuntu Linux.

Yes, I'm glad I have a familiarity with Linux. If Microsoft starts charging a subscription fee for Windows, I think I'll end up switching to Linux.
Mint Linux is currently my favorite distro, but I also like OpenSUSE (also back when it was just SuSE).

i'll just keep stealing it. i have several legit copies of windows but i prefer to steal it just because it's easier to install.

windows is a more polished product and linux is not for everyone.

i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my desktops are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.
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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sat Mar 18 2017 12:25 am

i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my desktops are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.
i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my desktops are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.

I run most of my servers on Ubuntu 14.04, however I do run my Plex home server on a windows thin client PC and I run my BBS on that same PC.
I prefer Linux for servers in most cases.
I have tried many Linux Distro's but have settled on Ubuntu due to its stability and support.
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windows is a more polished product and linux is not for everyone.

i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my
desktops are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.

As much as I love Linux, I tend to do the same as you for pragmatic reasons - Windows still works better for me on the desktop, but Linux is hard to beat as a server.


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I run most of my servers on Ubuntu 14.04, however I do run my Plex
home server on a windows thin client PC and I run my BBS on that same
PC. I prefer Linux for servers in most cases.

I use Debian or Raspian these days on machines acting as servers. Have heard a lot of good things about Ubuntu, but like the way Debian is managed for the most part. I also tend not to run X, so have a strong preference for command line or curses based tools.

I have tried many Linux Distro's but have settled on Ubuntu due to its stability and support.

I used to run Red Hat/CentOS, but after CentOS 6 made some major changes that broke some software I was using at the time, I switched to Debian and have been happy since.


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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sat Mar 18 2017 12:25 am

i'll just keep stealing it. i have several legit copies of windows but i prefer to steal it just because it's easier to install.

windows is a more polished product and linux is not for everyone.

i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my desktops are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.

Windows has been doing online activation since XP though.. I'm not sure I'd want to risk it, particularly if I want to install Windows updates.

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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sat Mar 18 2017 09:22 pm

i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my desktops are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.

Windows has been doing online activation since XP though.. I'm not sure I'd want to risk it, particularly if I want to install Windows updates.

they have always defeated it, since xp. also you can manually install updates. i keep updates turned off and install what i want to install. i dont trust that shit.
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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Mar 19 2017 12:34:29

they have always defeated it, since xp. also you can manually install updates. i keep updates turned off and install what i want to install. i dont trust that shit.

You will find either one difficult to do in Windows 10. You cannot turn off updates, nor can you stop it from downloading automatically and installing. I have not checked yet on the other machine which runs the insider Edition, but the upcoming Creator edition is supposed to give you some control over that.


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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: Joe Delahaye to Mro on Sun Mar 19 2017 08:03 pm

they have always defeated it, since xp. also you can manually install updates. i keep updates turned off and install what i want to install. i dont trust that shit.

You will find either one difficult to do in Windows 10. You cannot turn off updates, nor can you stop it from downloading automatically and installing. I have not checked yet on the other machine which runs the insider Edition, but the upcoming Creator edition is supposed to give you some control over that.

i only had windows 10 on a laptop that my girlfriend got from bestbuy and it took a dive after a few updates. i'm still running win7 enterprise. i dont feel i'm missing out.
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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: Mro to Joe Delahaye on Mon Mar 20 2017 08:36 pm

i only had windows 10 on a laptop that my girlfriend got from bestbuy and it took a dive after a few updates. i'm still running win7 enterprise. i dont feel i'm missing out.

I'm running 10 on a desktop and laptop now, and have another laptop running Lubuntu. I put Windows 7 in a Virtualbox VM (the newer versions support Aero 3d, which is nice)

After running Windows 7 for a while again, I miss it. it feels so much less cluttered than 10, and does everything I need.

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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: Mro to Joe Delahaye on Mon Mar 20 2017 20:36:16

they have always defeated it, since xp. also you can manually
install updates. i keep updates turned off and install what i want
to install. i dont trust that shit.

You will find either one difficult to do in Windows 10. You cannot
turn off updates, nor can you stop it from downloading automatically
and installing. I have not checked yet on the other machine which runs
the insider Edition, but the upcoming Creator edition is supposed to
give you some control over that.

i only had windows 10 on a laptop that my girlfriend got from bestbuy and it took a dive after a few updates. i'm still running win7 enterprise. i dont feel i'm missing out.

Did it come installed with 10, or was it updated? Some updates from 7 had some problems. You will be missing out in about 2 years I think, when it is no longer supported.


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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: Joe Delahaye to Mro on Tue Mar 21 2017 01:41 pm

Did it come installed with 10, or was it updated? Some updates from 7 had some problems. You will be missing out in about 2 years I think, when it is no longer supported.

it was an update from windows 8 i believe. the daughter who i call the destroyer of all electronics dropped a ton of water on the keyboard and brought it to me asking if i could fix it.

she was using the couch as a desk and then put her waterbottle on the cushion and ofcourse it dumped on the laptop.
she went through 5 iphones too.
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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: Mro to Joe Delahaye on Tue Mar 21 2017 21:25:10

Did it come installed with 10, or was it updated? Some updates from 7
had some problems. You will be missing out in about 2 years I think,
when it is no longer supported.

it was an update from windows 8 i believe. the daughter who i call the destroyer of all electronics dropped a ton of water on the keyboard and brought it to me asking if i could fix it.

she was using the couch as a desk and then put her waterbottle on the cushion and ofcourse it dumped on the laptop.
she went through 5 iphones too.

Sounds like my grandaughter. She used to go thru cell phones like crazy as well. Had two stolen out of her purse as well. Now at age 27 she is much more careful <G>


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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: Deavmi to Mro on Wed Mar 22 2017 02:03 am

For me. Linux is way better. Fedora all the way.

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