• Slackware 14.2 CD Distribution Sale

    From Fringe@VERT to All on Sun May 28 18:58:09 2017
    Slackware 14.2 CD Distribution, 6 CD set
    in slim DVD case, for sale.

    Name a price.

    US buyer's / shippers only.

    Message: z0ink@yahoo.com

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  • From Ralph Smole@VERT/NIMBUS to KK4QBN on Thu Jun 1 21:45:43 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 CD Distribution Sale
    By: KK4QBN to Fringe on Tue May 30 2017 03:26 pm

    Slackware 14.2 CD Distribution, 6 CD set
    in slim DVD case, for sale.

    Why?
    No shit,WHY?

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  • From Kinetix@VERT/FAMLYFUN to Ralph Smole on Sat Jun 10 16:02:58 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 CD Distribution Sale
    By: Ralph Smole to KK4QBN on Thu Jun 01 2017 09:45 pm

    Slackware 14.2 CD Distribution, 6 CD set
    in slim DVD case, for sale.

    Why?
    No shit,WHY?

    If it weren't for the version number, I would suspect that the message was from 20
    years ago.

    What a deal! ;-)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Deavmi on Tue Jun 20 16:57:15 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 CD Distribution Sale
    By: Deavmi to Fringe on Sun Jun 11 2017 01:14 pm

    Have you heard of the Internet?

    Even with the internet, there used to be a site called cheapbytes.com that would make copies of Linux distros and such and sell them fairly inexpensively (for about the price of CD-R/DVD-R media). But that was back in the late 90s when most people used dialup internet, and they didn't want to wait days to download an ISO image (or couldn't because they only had so much download quota per month).

    Nightfox

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  • From Fringe@VERT to Ralph Smole on Sun Jul 23 15:48:54 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 CD Distribution Sale
    By: Ralph Smole to KK4QBN on Thu Jun 01 2017 09:45 pm

    Re: Slackware 14.2 CD Distribution Sale
    By: KK4QBN to Fringe on Tue May 30 2017 03:26 pm

    Slackware 14.2 CD Distribution, 6 CD set
    in slim DVD case, for sale.

    Why?
    No shit,WHY?


    Why ..

    The Internet is mostly a place for porn, or porn trade ..

    And, I'm not making a mother fuckin' top site.

    So, as I said ...

    Slackware 14.2 6-CD w/ Source CD for Sale!

    Packaged in Recycled OEM Slim DVD double-insert jewel case, with individual serial.

    US buyers only, may not ship outside the United States.

    Buyer pays shipping, buyer may pay any price.


    Payment must be accepted in advance.

    Cash or Check accepted,

    Multiple copies available .

    Rgrds,
    Fringe

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  • From Fringe@VERT to All on Sun Aug 13 17:44:10 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 CD Distribution Sale
    By: Fringe to All on Sun May 28 2017 06:58 pm

    Slackware 14.2

    Sale, CD or DVD

    Any price, buyer pays shipping, no shipping Outside US.

    contact: z0ink@yahoo.com

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Fringe on Sun Aug 13 22:54:37 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Fringe to All on Sun Aug 13 2017 05:44 pm

    Re: Slackware 14.2 CD Distribution Sale
    By: Fringe to All on Sun May 28 2017 06:58 pm

    Slackware 14.2

    Sale, CD or DVD

    Any price, buyer pays shipping, no shipping Outside US.

    contact: z0ink@yahoo.com


    if you pay me i'll give you the direct download link.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Fringe on Mon Aug 14 12:43:14 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Fringe to All on Sun Aug 13 2017 05:44 pm

    Slackware 14.2

    Sale, CD or DVD

    Any price, buyer pays shipping, no shipping Outside US.

    contact: z0ink@yahoo.com

    Why do you think people these days would pay for this? This isn't 1996 anymore. Broadband internet is common, and fewer people these days even use CDs or DVDs anymore. It's fairly easy to download a Linux distro and write it to a USB flash drive (or CD/DVD if someone has a burner and wants to do it that way).

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to KK4QBN on Wed Aug 16 09:00:00 2017
    KK4QBN wrote to Nightfox <=-

    We've been trying to tell this persone this for a month or more.. they just get pissed when we do... maybe someone out there only has a
    2400bps modem.. but if that were the case, this slack would'nt install
    to their system.

    These days, with 100/40 Mbps Internet, "network installs" are the way to go. I did that with Debian a while back - download a "stub" installer that loads a kernel and a basic set of drivers, then install the rest off the net. One advantage I found is that the machine I used has non free network drivers, and the installer told me what drivers I needed. Sure, I had to download them manually and leave them on a USB stick, but that ensured I had a functional network connection after the installation, instead of having to google and guess after the fact. :)


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to jagossel on Wed Aug 16 14:37:02 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: jagossel to KK4QBN on Mon Aug 14 2017 06:14 pm

    Sorry for "replying to myself", just noticed that you can order the Slackware 14.2 CD or DVD right off of the site: store.slackware.com. The 6-CD set and the DVD are both US$50. As much as it used to be back in the 90s: US$60 (before inflation).

    Imagine that, I didn't think that Linux distributions still sell CDs.

    I didn't know either.. I remember when some distros cost that much, with their own box and manual etc.. But you could also go to cheapbytes.com and buy a copy they'd burn onto CD-R/DVD-R for you and just pay for the media (maybe $3) and shipping.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Wed Aug 16 14:38:33 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: KK4QBN to jagossel on Tue Aug 15 2017 09:08 am

    Slackware is the first linux I ever laid eyes on. we tried zipslack first,

    Me too, Slackware was the first Linux I saw. Slackware was one of the first, and I think many people who looked at Linux in the early days probably had a look at Slackware.. I haven't used it in years though. I'm not sure it had much of a package manager (perhaps it does now?). I remember reading a review on Slackware where someone described it basically as an "image of some guy's hard drive".. :P

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to jagossel on Wed Aug 16 14:41:01 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: jagossel to KK4QBN on Tue Aug 15 2017 09:46 am

    Back when I tried Linux in 1999 (I believe), my dad had a copy of Slackware '96 and I remember having to create a floppy disk to boot from, and then I stopped at the command prompt (BASH) and then restarted the comouter to go back to Windows. It was pretty daugnting for my teenage with no experience in Linux back then.

    I didn't have much experience with Linux either in those days, but sometimes I still gave it a try to learn more about it. I had used DOS before, so I wasn't afraid of command prompts, but Linux had a completely different set of commands and tools, so it had a learning curve..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Wed Aug 16 14:43:33 2017
    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Vk3jed to KK4QBN on Wed Aug 16 2017 09:00 am

    These days, with 100/40 Mbps Internet, "network installs" are the way to go. I did that with Debian a while back - download a "stub" installer that loads a kernel and a basic set of drivers, then install the rest off the net. One advantage I found is that the machine I used has non free network

    That can be handy sometimes, but if I expect to install it more than once, I'll just download an ISO and write it to a USB drive or CD/DVD. And although an internet connection is usually reliable, sometimes it will hiccup in the middle of an install and get disconnected, which can be frustrating..

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Vk3jed on Thu Aug 17 09:42:00 2017
    Vk3jed wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    These days, with 100/40 Mbps Internet, "network installs" are the way
    to go. I did that with Debian a while back - download a "stub"
    installer that loads a kernel and a basic set of drivers, then install
    the rest off the net. One advantage I found is that the machine I used has non free network drivers, and the installer told me what drivers I needed. Sure, I had to download them manually and leave them on a USB stick, but that ensured I had a functional network connection after the installation, instead of having to google and guess after the fact. :)

    And did another quick network install of Debian yesterday. Took just over 30 mins, the download time was only 5-10 mins, the bulk of the time being spent actually installing packages. Yeah, no need to buy CDs here, downloading a .iso takes a few minutes at most. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to KK4QBN on Thu Aug 17 12:24:00 2017
    KK4QBN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yes, this is the way I did my last debian install, I have ISOs of

    I also like that their images are both USB and CD capable out of the box, no need to specially prepare them for USB. But yeah, netinst is a great way to go these days.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Thu Aug 17 12:26:00 2017
    Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    That can be handy sometimes, but if I expect to install it more than
    once, I'll just download an ISO and write it to a USB drive or CD/DVD.
    And although an internet connection is usually reliable, sometimes it
    will hiccup in the middle of an install and get disconnected, which can
    be frustrating..

    Yeah, if doing a heap, either CD/DVD, or mirror the entire repository. :)


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  • From Jagossel@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Wed Aug 16 20:19:09 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Nightfox to jagossel on Wed Aug 16 2017 02:37 pm

    Imagine that, I didn't think that Linux distributions still sell CDs.

    I didn't know either.. I remember when some distros cost that much, with th
    eir
    own box and manual etc..

    Ah yea, I remember (and still have the box somewhere) the Red Hat Limux 7 (before it split into two: enterprise [RHEL] and desktop [Fedora]) box, in all its glory: the black box with the Red Hat logo, and the screenshots and low-end system requirements. I think my dad got me that copy of Red Hat Linux 7 for Xmas that year. It had the manual, license agreement, card to sign up for the Red Hat Network @ US$60/year, the CD case with three CDs placed in plastic sleeves, and a floppy boot disk in the pocket.

    Ah, the good ol' days; where it was, rare, but possible, to got to Wal-Mart and pick up a Linux distribution for around ~US$60.

    Like others have already said, now-a-days, you can just simply download a net installer ISO and install Linux. Arch Linux has fully embraced that idea.

    Maybe I should go find that box again and look at the contents again. I tried to install it in a VM, but apparently it's too old to run on modern systems. Oh well...

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Wed Aug 16 21:44:23 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Wed Aug 16 2017 08:19 pm

    Ah yea, I remember (and still have the box somewhere) the Red Hat Limux 7 (before it split into two: enterprise [RHEL] and desktop [Fedora]) box, in all its glory: the black box with the Red Hat logo, and the screenshots and low-end system requirements. I think my dad got me that copy of Red Hat Linux 7 for Xmas that year. It had the manual, license agreement, card to sign up for the Red Hat Network @ US$60/year, the CD case with three CDs placed in plastic sleeves, and a floppy boot disk in the pocket.

    Ah, the good ol' days; where it was, rare, but possible, to got to Wal-Mart and pick up a Linux distribution for around ~US$60.

    Yeah, I remember when it was fairly common to see Linux distros sold in stores. Even if a store these days still sells PC software, I don't see Linux distros in stores anymore.. I remember going to my local Egghead Software (when they were still around) and buying a boxed copy of RedHat Linux. I think it was around $30 or $40, and I think it was before they were known for being an enterprise Linux distro. It wasn't even the latest version of RedHat; I just wanted to get more familiar with Linux. I think it was RedHat 4.2 or somewhere around there. A few years later (1999, I think) I bought a boxed copy of SuSE Linux at CompUSA (I think it was around $50). SuSE was my favorite Linux distro for a while (I still like it overall in its current incarnation, OpenSuSE).. SuSE seemed to make it easier to get XFree86 going - It seemed to detect my video card & settings more successfully than other distros would. I think SuSE had their own special utility for configuring XFree, which worked fairly well. Now most distros seem to get the GUI running better out of the box without much fiddling.

    I thought it was pretty cool to be able to go into a store and buy a
    copy of Linux off the shelf - I thought that meant Linux had finally 'made it' (or was close to it) as a consumer operating system. These days, I still don't think Linux is a major player for desktop computers, although I occasionally hear about some PC companies installing Linux on their PCs at the factory.

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Jagossel on Thu Aug 17 09:06:18 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Wed Aug 16 2017 08:19 pm

    Ah yea, I remember (and still have the box somewhere) the Red Hat Limux 7 (before it split into two: enterprise [RHEL] and desktop [Fedora]) box, in all its glory: the black box with the Red Hat logo, and the screenshots and low-end system requirements.

    Don't forget the Man-with-the-fedora Red Hat logo window stickers!

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/OUTWEST to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Aug 17 11:11:54 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Jagossel on Thu Aug 17 2017 09:06 am

    Ah yea, I remember (and still have the box somewhere) the Red Hat Limux
    7
    (before it split into two: enterprise [RHEL] and desktop [Fedora]) box,
    in
    all its glory: the black box with the Red Hat logo, and the screenshots
    and
    low-end system requirements.

    Don't forget the Man-with-the-fedora Red Hat logo window stickers!

    Awe man, yea! I completely forgot about the window sticker! :D

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Thu Aug 17 12:24:37 2017
    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Vk3jed to KK4QBN on Thu Aug 17 2017 12:24 pm

    I also like that their images are both USB and CD capable out of the box, no need to specially prepare them for USB. But yeah, netinst is a great way to go these days.

    I didn't think you'd normally have to do anything to prepare an ISO for USB. I've written Linux and Windows ISOs to USB flash drives and never had to do anything special.. Perhaps the software I was using did the necessary stuff for me.

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Fri Aug 18 06:53:00 2017
    Nightfox wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    Me too, Slackware was the first Linux I saw. Slackware was one of the first, and I think many people who looked at Linux in the early days probably had a look at Slackware.. I haven't used it in years though.
    I'm not sure it had much of a package manager (perhaps it does now?).
    I remember reading a review on Slackware where someone described it basically as an "image of some guy's hard drive".. :P

    Slackware was the second distro I tried. Worked pretty well, solid and reliable, but apt and yum make distributions much easier to manage. I switched to Red Hat (and related), and in the last 5-10 years switched again to Debian.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Fri Aug 18 07:12:00 2017
    Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I didn't think you'd normally have to do anything to prepare an ISO for USB. I've written Linux and Windows ISOs to USB flash drives and never
    had to do anything special.. Perhaps the software I was using did the necessary stuff for me.

    Debian state that their ISOs are designed for DVD or USB booting. There is software that can write _any_ bootable ISO to a USB stick and make it bootable.


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  • From Zeb@VERT/DMINE to Nightfox on Sat Aug 19 16:30:25 2017
    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Thu Aug 17 2017 12:24 pm

    I didn't think you'd normally have to do anything to prepare an ISO for USB. I've written Linux and Windows ISOs to USB flash drives and never had to do anything special.. Perhaps the software I was using did the necessary stuff for me.

    Windows ISOs definitely need some preparation - you can't just dd them straight to a flash drive. I always have to use a program like Rufus (on Windows) or WinUSB (on Linux) to make a Windows USB drive. Most Linux distros, on the other hand, you can just dd to a flash drive.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Zeb on Sat Aug 19 17:36:54 2017
    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Zeb to Nightfox on Sat Aug 19 2017 04:30 pm

    I didn't think you'd normally have to do anything to prepare an ISO
    for USB. I've written Linux and Windows ISOs to USB flash drives and
    never had to do anything special.. Perhaps the software I was using
    did the necessary stuff for me.

    Windows ISOs definitely need some preparation - you can't just dd them straight to a flash drive. I always have to use a program like Rufus (on Windows) or WinUSB (on Linux) to make a Windows USB drive. Most Linux distros, on the other hand, you can just dd to a flash drive.

    That's what I've done when writing ISOs to a flash drive, I've used a tool such as Rufus, etc.. Same with Linux ISOs, I've used Rufus and similar tools to write Linux ISOs to USB drives (from Windows). I didn't know you could just dd Linux ISOs to a drive and have them boot, but the tools I normally use for Windows make it as easy as opening the ISO and writing it to the drive. As I said, perhaps the tools I've used do the necessary stuff for me.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Zeb on Sat Aug 19 19:39:53 2017
    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Zeb to Nightfox on Sat Aug 19 2017 04:30 pm

    Windows ISOs definitely need some preparation - you can't just dd them straight to a flash drive. I always have to use a program like Rufus (on Windows) or WinUSB (on Linux) to make a Windows USB drive. Most Linux distros, on the other hand, you can just dd to a flash drive.



    in windows i do bootsect /nt60 [driveletter]:
    then copy the files over

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to KK4QBN on Sat Aug 19 23:31:51 2017
    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Sat Aug 19 2017 16:57:32

    I think its dd.. hell I might be compeletely off.. I just know it's one of t easiests things I've done after wasting hours trying to find a gui app that would do it..

    It is "dd"; I've used it many times to get images on USB flash drives, and to create floppy disk images.

    Example: dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/vmuser/imges/floppy012.img bs=512 count=2880

    That will create a zero-filled (blank) 1.44MB floppy disk image for VMs to format and use. :)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Tue Aug 22 15:35:46 2017
    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Tue Aug 22 2017 04:29 pm

    Windows ISOs definitely need some preparation - you can't just dd
    them straight to a flash drive. I always have to use a program like
    Rufus (on Windows) or WinUSB (on Linux) to make a Windows USB
    drive. Most Linux distros, on the other hand, you can just dd to a
    flash drive.

    I spent so much time trying to find a good gui under linux to do it not knowing that it could be done with dd, then got lucky and run up on a good ubuntu forum.. wow saved so much time :)

    You replied to me, but I did not write what you quoted..

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to KK4QBN on Wed Aug 23 08:33:00 2017
    KK4QBN wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I spent so much time trying to find a good gui under linux to do it not knowing that it could be done with dd, then got lucky and run up on a
    good ubuntu forum.. wow saved so much time :)

    What's a Linux GUI? :P dd is one of my friends on a Linux box. I miss it when I'm stuck on a random Windows machine. ;)


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Wed Aug 23 09:32:57 2017
    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Vk3jed to KK4QBN on Wed Aug 23 2017 08:33 am

    What's a Linux GUI? :P dd is one of my friends on a Linux box. I miss it when I'm stuck on a random Windows machine. ;)

    The GNU tools (including dd) are available for Windows. One that I can't do without now is grep - I got used to grep on Linux, and now I sometimes like to use it in Windows to search for text in my files.

    The GNU has a CoreUtils package for Windows that you can download, which includes dd:
    http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/coreutils.htm

    And if you're interested, grep is also available as a standalone package: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/grep.htm

    Nightfox

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Nightfox on Wed Aug 23 14:06:43 2017
    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Wed Aug 23 2017 09:32:57

    What's a Linux GUI? :P dd is one of my friends on a Linux box. I miss i
    t
    when I'm stuck on a random Windows machine. ;)

    The GNU tools (including dd) are available for Windows. One that I can't do without now is grep - I got used to grep on Linux, and now I sometimes like
    to
    use it in Windows to search for text in my files.

    The GNU has a CoreUtils package for Windows that you can download, which includes dd:
    http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/coreutils.htm

    And if you're interested, grep is also available as a standalone package: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/grep.htm

    I will have to check that out myself when I get the chance, There were a couple of times where I needed dd in Windows to create blank floppy images.

    I've used GoW (GNU on Windows), but BASH didn't work then. Does GNUWIN32 require Cygwin or are they standalone?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Wed Aug 23 12:37:02 2017
    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Wed Aug 23 2017 02:06 pm

    I've used GoW (GNU on Windows), but BASH didn't work then. Does GNUWIN32 require Cygwin or are they standalone?

    They're standalone. Pretty much just Windows-native builds of the GNU tools (for the command prompt).

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Wed Aug 23 16:45:18 2017
    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Wed Aug 23 2017 12:37 pm

    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Wed Aug 23 2017 02:06 pm

    I've used GoW (GNU on Windows), but BASH didn't work then. Does GNUWIN32 require Cygwin or are they standalone?

    They're standalone. Pretty much just Windows-native builds of the GNU tools (for the command prompt).

    These are the unix utils for Windows I usually install: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/

    Except for grep. I still use a Borland version of grep because it supports a recursive search with a wildcard file/pattern match. (e.g. 'grep -d BLAH \src\*.h'). The GNU greps don't support that usage.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Thu Aug 24 09:26:00 2017
    Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    What's a Linux GUI? :P dd is one of my friends on a Linux box. I miss it when I'm stuck on a random Windows machine. ;)

    The GNU tools (including dd) are available for Windows. One that I
    can't do without now is grep - I got used to grep on Linux, and now I sometimes like to use it in Windows to search for text in my files.

    Yeah, I know, heance the reference to "random Windows machine" (i.e. one where I haven't had the opportunity to install GNU tools on it). :)

    The GNU has a CoreUtils package for Windows that you can download,
    which includes dd:
    http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/coreutils.htm

    And if you're interested, grep is also available as a standalone
    package: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/grep.htm

    All of which make Windows much more useful. :)


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Thu Aug 24 09:28:02 2017
    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Aug 23 2017 04:45 pm

    These are the unix utils for Windows I usually install: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/

    Except for grep. I still use a Borland version of grep because it supports a recursive search with a wildcard file/pattern match. (e.g. 'grep -d BLAH \src\*.h'). The GNU greps don't support that usage.

    Ah, interesting. I wondered if there was a way to use grep that way or a version of grep that allowed that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Thu Aug 24 11:44:28 2017
    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Aug 24 2017 09:28 am

    Re: Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Aug 23 2017 04:45 pm

    These are the unix utils for Windows I usually install: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/

    Except for grep. I still use a Borland version of grep because it supports a recursive search with a wildcard file/pattern match. (e.g. 'grep -d BLAH \src\*.h'). The GNU greps don't support that usage.

    Ah, interesting. I wondered if there was a way to use grep that way or a version of grep that allowed that.

    You can get the Borland (now Embarcadero) version of grep.exe from this package (along with a free C/C++ compiler, linker, CRTL, etc.): https://www.embarcadero.com/free-tools/ccompiler

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  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Nightfox on Tue Sep 12 21:41:04 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Wed Aug 16 2017 09:44 pm

    I thought it was pretty cool to be able to go into a store and buy a
    copy of Linux off the shelf - I thought that meant Linux had finally 'made i (or was close to it) as a consumer operating system. These days, I still do think Linux is a major player for desktop computers, although I occasionally hear about some PC companies installing Linux on their PCs at the factory.

    Nightfox


    I remember when you could get a box set also. Between Egghead, Walden sofware and some of the computer/book stores like CompUSA, I remember getting the early Mandrake and Redhat box sets. Even though nobody pays for it today and it's taken for granted, I always thought it was worth the $30 or so that you spent for what you got.

    Physical packaging in general for software is mostly going by the wayside, and part of me misses that.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Chris on Wed Sep 13 09:48:38 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Chris to Nightfox on Tue Sep 12 2017 09:41 pm

    I remember when you could get a box set also. Between Egghead, Walden sofware and some of the computer/book stores like CompUSA, I remember getting the early Mandrake and Redhat box sets. Even though nobody pays for it today and it's taken for granted, I always thought it was worth the $30 or so that you spent for what you got.

    Even back then, you could usually download the Linux distros for free even though you'd pay $30 or so in the store for a box set. It seems a little odd now when I think back on that..

    Physical packaging in general for software is mostly going by the wayside, and part of me misses that.

    I miss that too. There was something fun about going to a store, browsing, and holding a box in my hands and taking it home, and then opening it and installing it. Nowdays, I do like the ease of buying software online and downloading it, but it feels like there's something missing about it too.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Thu Sep 14 08:48:15 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Wed Sep 13 2017 08:54 pm

    I've always loved getting packaging with my console games, etc.. but the

    I did too. I also liked looking through the manual that came with my console games. I often felt like reading (or at least skimming) through the manual first would provide some useful information that would help when I started playing the game, rather than jumping into the game and not knowing what I was doing.

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 08:58:27 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: Nightfox to Chris on Wed Sep 13 2017 09:48 am

    Even back then, you could usually download the Linux distros for free even though you'd pay $30 or so in the store for a box set. It seems a little odd now when I think back on that..

    I'd buy the CDs online - with a 768kb/128kb DSL line, it made more sense to
    pay a couple of bucks to one of the online places for a white label CD.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Sep 15 12:43:50 2017
    Re: Slackware 14.2 Sale [Was: CD Distribution Sale]
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 2017 08:58 am

    Even back then, you could usually download the Linux distros for
    free even though you'd pay $30 or so in the store for a box set. It
    seems a little odd now when I think back on that..

    I'd buy the CDs online - with a 768kb/128kb DSL line, it made more sense to pay a couple of bucks to one of the online places for a white label CD.

    Yeah, back then I also bought some Linux CDs online because I had dialup and didn't want to download ISOs that way. But it was still much cheaper to buy them that way. There was a site called cheapbytes.com that would basically burn the ISOs to CD-Rs for you and sell them to you for pretty much the cost of the CD-Rs and shipping.

    Nightfox

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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 16 08:57:00 2017
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-


    Even back then, you could usually download the Linux distros for free even though you'd pay $30 or so in the store for a box set. It seems a little odd now when I think back on that..

    I'd buy the CDs online - with a 768kb/128kb DSL line, it made more
    sense to pay a couple of bucks to one of the online places for a white label CD.

    I'd wait until Walnut Creek put out a 6 CD set ;)


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