• Re: ai shit from bbs people.

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Outlaw on Sun Jul 12 01:50:00 2026
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    Re: Re: ai shit from bbs people.
    By: Dumas Walker to Outlaw on Sat Jul 11 2026 09:28 pm

    Soe here are talking as if AI human, AI is a tool, If someone write code,
    or a little program, then Uses AI to help clean the code up, that does not
    belong to AI, one should be honest tho and say AI was used to help write
    the code, but it does not belong to AI.

    No you are still missing the point. No one is claiming AI is human or even
    sentient... just that AI is creating code that people (who otherwise maybe
    cannot code) are presenting as their own. Search on "Shadow AI" for details
    on how this can cause trouble.

    No, not missing the point, I even quoted the example in an earlier post. The people that are saying code made with the help of AI belongs to AI.


    Except that the last two people you responded this way to were not making that point.

    The point they were making is the same one I made above.

    If you see someone making the point you are responding to... that AI is "human"... then please be sure you are replying to them. ;)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Sun Jul 12 09:25:25 2026
    Nightfox wrote to Hisacro <=-

    Although AI tools are trained with existing data, I still wonder about ethical usage.

    Just think if we had effective copyright law - all of the web 2.0
    companies that monetized user content would have had to figure a way to
    monetize the platform for content creators!

    Similarly, AI companies seem to take pride in scraping any and all
    content on the web to train their LLMS, then charge for the privelige
    of accessing that data through their LLM.

    They've even claimed that copyright hurts their business model!


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Sun Jul 12 09:25:25 2026
    Nightfox wrote to Hisacro <=-

    Another thing about the ethical angle: In my experience, companies want their employees to be using AI tools to increase productivity. Time is money, so if you're not using all the tools available to make you as productive as possible (thus, making the employer spend more money via your salary to get a project done), I think that could be seen as not ethical from the company's standpoint.

    Then, they blow through their annual AI budget in 4 months. I'm trying
    to get my company to realize they can do a ton with CoPilot chat, which
    we get for free with Microsoft 365. Copilot Pro is only really useful
    if you use it inside of your Office apps - and if that's not worth
    $360/year in your use case, you don't need it.

    For most people who want a search engine that hallucinates, free is
    fine.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Chris Dick on Sun Jul 12 09:25:25 2026
    Chris Dick wrote to Outlaw <=-

    Re: ai shit from bbs people.
    By: Outlaw to Digital Man on Sun Jul 05 2026 20:34:48

    yeah i think AI is here to stay ... unfortunately i think its just a reality that we all have to get used to .

    It's going to burn down the financial markets. The markets are propped
    up by the same handful of companies buying GPUs and services from each
    other with crazy valuations.

    SpaceX, which absorbed Musk's personal X debt and xAI's money
    hemorraging operation and is now fast-tracked into the NASDDAQ 100 (in
    contravention of their own rules) is now forcing its debt onto the ATFs
    and retirement index funds. xAI can continue it's cash-negative
    operations subsidized by those same portfolios and SpaceX's spacecraft
    subsidies from the government.

    Billionaires profit, ordinary people lose money, and the government
    continues to finance Musk.



    i mean i use it from time to
    time to find answers to things quicker when i get stumped ... i dont
    like admitting it but hey it is a handy tool to have in the pocket !

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jul 12 13:41:29 2026
    Re: Re: ai shit from bbs people.
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Chris Dick on Sun Jul 12 2026 09:25 am


    SpaceX, which absorbed Musk's personal X debt and xAI's money
    hemorraging operation and is now fast-tracked into the NASDDAQ 100 (in
    contravention of their own rules) is now forcing its debt onto the ATFs

    Musk has been putting everything into spacex. That's how he operates.
    He was homeless living in a fabricated home with grimes on spacex property.


    Billionaires profit, ordinary people lose money,

    you mean those people you vote for?

    and the government
    continues to finance Musk.

    Businesses use the tax system and take advantage of everything they can. That's how they operate. they wouldn't exist if they didn't.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MRO on Mon Jul 13 07:26:23 2026
    Re: Re: ai shit from bbs people.
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jul 12 2026 01:41 pm

    SpaceX, which absorbed Musk's personal X debt and xAI's money hemorraging
    operation and is now fast-tracked into the NASDDAQ 100 (in contravention of
    their own rules) is now forcing its debt onto the ATFs

    Musk has been putting everything into spacex. That's how he operates. He was homeless living in a fabricated home with grimes on spacex property.

    I assume you've dumped every spare cent you have into SPCX since the IPO if you believe in it so much, right?

    Billionaires profit, ordinary people lose money,

    you mean those people you vote for?

    Most Billionaires don't run for public office, they just buy the people who do.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Tue Jul 14 06:00:55 2026
    Re: Re: ai shit from bbs people.
    By: DaiTengu to MRO on Mon Jul 13 2026 07:26 am


    Musk has been putting everything into spacex. That's how he operates. He was homeless living in a fabricated home with grimes on spacex property.

    I assume you've dumped every spare cent you have into SPCX since the IPO if you believe in it so much, right?


    It's not that i 'believe in it'; but it works. It did save those astronaughts. Yes i have some spacex stock.

    and he had dumped everything he has into every one of his endeavors. like i Said, that's how he operates.

    you mean those people you vote for?

    Most Billionaires don't run for public office, they just buy the people who do.

    The crooked politicians may not be billionares, but they are trying to be.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MRO on Wed Jul 15 07:37:51 2026
    MRO wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    and he had dumped everything he has into every one of his endeavors.
    like i Said, that's how he operates.

    And by "everything", you mean debt, right? X debt rolled into xAI, xAI
    debt rolled into SpaceX...


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jul 15 16:31:49 2026
    Re: Re: ai shit from bbs people.
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Wed Jul 15 2026 07:37 am

    MRO wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    and he had dumped everything he has into every one of his endeavors. like i Said, that's how he operates.

    And by "everything", you mean debt, right? X debt rolled into xAI, xAI
    debt rolled into SpaceX...



    By everything i mean everything.

    People like this are on a whole 'nother level. money doesn't work the same for them as it does for us. Debt and credit and all that shit.



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