Same here, sort of. DYN that, right before he got shot, he successfully requested that the Republican party remove any "national abortion ban" language from the official party platform?

Isn't it insane how the media has tried to quiet that assassination??? I mean that is HUGE IMO... As if it WEREN'T what it was...

Yes, it is. I am not 100% certain it is on them, and I did just yesterday
see a local newspiece about it. I believe that part of what got it burried
was the Democrat switcheroo that happened shortly after.

IMHO, part of what got the Democrats moving to replace Biden was his poor debate performance, but the other part was to make sure Trump getting shot didn't get too many news cycles. So, they came up with a big story of their own.

Yes, turning the choice over to the states has certainly lead to all out (and sometimes downright illogical) bans, and a lot of Republican politicians are responsible/behind it, and I disagree with them on it.

I do too - however, a decade ago it was exactly what BOTH sides wanted. On abortion, I'm pro-choice - PERIOD... but how bad IS the states taking over?? I
think it puts the vote in PEOPLES hands - I don't agree with it, but I refuse to lie and make it the topic that the left wants to...

Indeed. I am pro-choice also and that is what both sides wanted in the
past. It does put it in the people's hands, which I like, but I am
concerned that some states are so strict now that you might have to carry a baby to term even if your life is in danger.

We had a governor candidate (R) that wanted to be able to track the travel habits of women in child bearing years to make sure they weren't traveling
to Illinois to receive care. I am so glad he lost.

The summer of love was 100% 10X worse than Jan 6 - the fact that the left won't
admit that, nor has there been ANY consequences for it... IS racism IMO. Bunch >of BS that we'll all look back in on 50 years and be able to state.

Overall, I agree. I believe both groups of people did bad things and those people who did bad things need to get in trouble. However, the government
(and press) on the whole seems to only believe that to be true for the Jan 6 group, which is very wrong.

PS - I was on ground zero in Portland for that... it was pretty scary - I got out just 3 mins before the coppers shut it down; thank gosh for my Army buddy who needed to leave b/c of PTSD.

Glad he was with you, and hope it didn't traumatize him too much. I am
lucky in that my town didn't have any widespread issues, just a few minor
ones, and was nothing like Louisville.

I don't understand where people get any numbers that suggest otherwise, but they do. "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics" so I guess that is how they get them.

Rent is $2000; food is up 40%; gas is freaking insane; insurances are up 25+%;
I have less $$$; I've never worried this much in my life; a soda costs $4 in Seattle; people who go viral make $100M in a year; press record, in 2024 its almost the only way...

Trump 2024; more and more everyday.

I visited the West Coast (AZ and CA) about this time last year. I was
shocked at how much higher fuel was in (most of) Western AZ and in
California. Other things were a lot higher, too, which I suspect is
related to fuel being so much higher out there. At the time, fuel was
75%-100% times more than it is here, depending on what part of CA I was in,
and it was 3x more than a few places I drove through between here and there.

Right now it is about 33% higher here than in 2019. Depending on what you
are buying, food is anywhere from 25%-100% higher.

Some people will point out that "companies are making record profits now."
I can't disagree but would also point out that you usually do make profits
when some of your competitors can no longer afford to stay in business.


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I think they can find it, they just cannot properly identify it as male or female.


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Again with the hard disagree - Trump, while many things, hasn't lied in this way in the past. He tells you what he wants to do, and follows thru.

Jeebus - do ya'll have the same bank cards, and cash, that I did today and four years ago?!?!??! I just don't get it - how can anyone say yer not feeling it?



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Indeed. I am pro-choice also and that is what both sides wanted in the past. It does put it in the people's hands, which I like, but I am concerned that some states are so strict now that you might have to
carry a baby to term even if your life is in danger.

Right - ok, I'll bite...

But my friends who lean more to the right... they're the ones who live in Texas, LA, OH - the places were the PEOPLE have voted abortion rights DOWN....

And my friends who care about choice live in places that DIDN'T do that; so, while *I* am pro-choice, I don't see all this jumping up and down about womens rights - the women that I know that want pro-choice....... have it. Today.

And states that are more buckled down, don't - I get it.. not perfect, but neither was Roe vs Wade.

Overall, I agree. I believe both groups of people did bad things and those people who did bad things need to get in trouble. However, the government (and press) on the whole seems to only believe that to be
true for the Jan 6 group, which is very wrong.

But only one group was charged, convicted and is SERVING long sentances.

The other faction is just.... not.

And that is $$$$ take it to the bank black and white - its gross.... but one side won't admit to that.

They burned down fecking CITIES - and a couple lawyers got light sentances.... and 100s got away; but 1/05 folks are serving ALL the time.

Its not hard to see....



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Rent is $2000; food is up 40%; gas is freaking insane; insurances are I have less $$$; I've never worried this much in my life; a soda cost Seattle; people who go viral make $100M in a year; press record, in 2 almost the only way...

Trump will accelerate greedflation through further "trickle-down" tax
cuts and otherwise, not restrain or end it. The solution is to tax, or failing that eat, the rich.

Wrong - Trump will open up the assets we have in our country, and YOU (and I) would feel the relief within weeks, not months.

How can the other side not admit to this??? I honestly can't understand the lie can be rode... its BS.

Drill, baby, drill - and gas comes down in DAYS/WEEKS. Period - we've seen it before, when Trump wanted to fill the reserves @ $30. (Notice I didn't say $20, like Trump likes to mutter...) But it was at record levels... quickly - and if you let Texas, LA, and MT drill - you'd see it in days/weeks/months - not years. This is a fact, and I can't respect peple saying no.

If you say 'I don't know' or 'I'm not informed', then OK - but most lie.... YES, if we open it up the middle class will feel the relief quickly.

Most of 'us', tho, are prolly upper-middle class and don't NEED it - well... I do...



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Re: Re: Kamala
By: paulie420 to halian on Fri Aug 09 2024 09:39 pm

Trump will accelerate greedflation through further "trickle-down"
tax cuts and otherwise, not restrain or end it. The solution is to
tax, or failing that eat, the rich.

Wrong - Trump will open up the assets we have in our country, and YOU (and I) would feel the relief within weeks, not months.

How can the other side not admit to this??? I honestly can't understand the lie can be rode... its BS.

Democrats want power absolute, Once they get power they have no clue what to do with it, they want more and more Government programs to make people dependant on the Government.


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Indeed. I am pro-choice also and that is what both sides wanted in the past. It does put it in the people's hands, which I like, but I am concerned that some states are so strict now that you might have to carry a baby to term even if your life is in danger.

Right - ok, I'll bite...

But my friends who lean more to the right... they're the ones who live in Texas, LA, OH - the places were the PEOPLE have voted abortion rights DOWN....

And my friends who care about choice live in places that DIDN'T do that; so, while *I* am pro-choice, I don't see all this jumping up and down about womens
rights - the women that I know that want pro-choice....... have it. Today.

And states that are more buckled down, don't - I get it.. not perfect, but neither was Roe vs Wade.

It goes along with the example I gave. Our Republican Governor candidate,
who lost, and his supporters wanted to be able to track the out of state
travel habits of women of child bearing years to discourage travel to a neighboring state (likely Illinois) to receive care.

IMHO, that is invasion of privacy and would have affected anyone who
traveled with a women who met their criteria.

It might not be any more, but my state was also one of the ones that went
so strict that "life is in danger" was not an option. I *think* they
didn't mean to do that and I *think* they fixed it. Alabama, another very strict state, went crazy with their law and accidentally made IVF illegal.

It isn't perfect and, based on the Constitution, I think it is correct to
let the states handle it. I just wish that some of them would have taken a moment to think about their actions before just doing it.

Overall, I agree. I believe both groups of people did bad things and those people who did bad things need to get in trouble. However, the government (and press) on the whole seems to only believe that to be true for the Jan 6 group, which is very wrong.

But only one group was charged, convicted and is SERVING long sentances.

The other faction is just.... not.

Correct, which is what I said... the government and press only believe the
Jan 6 group did something wrong, and I disagree with them as you do.

And that is $$$$ take it to the bank black and white - its gross.... but one side won't admit to that.

They burned down fecking CITIES - and a couple lawyers got light sentances....
and 100s got away; but 1/05 folks are serving ALL the time.

Its not hard to see....

They have been blantantly obvious about it... Summer of Love protesters
were "peaceful" and were good, while 1/6 protesters were violent, homocidal insurrectionists and were EVIL.

IMHO, anyone doing bad things at either time need to be in the same type of trouble but our government has failed to dole out equal punishment.

One thing to bear in mind, too, is that during the 2020 protest season Harris encouraged people to donate to the Minnesota Freedom Fund. MFF is a fund that pays criminal bail bonds and that paid bail in order to free those
incarcerated during the 2020 protests.

For anyone who wants a reference to that, here it is:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/harris-protesters-bail/

The part I mention is the part that is true. Snopes also notes that MFF pays bail bonds for persons who violate immigration laws.


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Project 2025 is Trump's Policy. One of the most terrifying things he wants to do (and tried to do at the end of his last presidency) is change a large chunk of low level federal civil service workers from standard hires to political appointees, so they can install loyal cult members into these positions.

He neutered certain parts of the RNC Platform for 2024. I don't think
Project 2025 will be followed to the T.

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Re: Kamala
By: Neofree to All on Mon Aug 05 2024 09:09 pm

Kamala should be the next president of the United States of America because theother two people who were running are both very old and out of touch and both
have conerns about their future mental health.

Kamala sounds to me like a whole load of "more of the same." Considering "the same" has been drawing the US past the point of no return I don't consider it to be positive.


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Re: Kamala
By: Neofree to Denn on Tue Aug 06 2024 03:24 pm

I stand by that Kamala has the best mental health of the 3. She hasn't done anything concering to me about that. Like you said, who cares what race she is, but when it comes to firsts, if she is elected she will be the first woman to be a president. And when it comes to what race she wants to go by, I'm sureshe can take a 23AndMe test too and use the highest percentage if she wanted,

That is quite an issue right there. For a party bent of making race and gender irrelevant, they put so much effort of making them relevant.

Only the KKK cares so much about this stuff, word. And now Democrats.

I guess it is not 100% Kamala's fault, since Obama pioneered the technique of abusing identity politics to generate division for political gain. Most current Democrats re just following a path that ws established before them. They are still responsible for walking down that road.


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Re: Kamala
By: Arelor to Neofree on Sun Aug 11 2024 02:41 pm

Kamala should be the next president of the United States of America because theother two people who were running are both very old and out of touch and both
have conerns about their future mental health.

Kamala sounds to me like a whole load of "more of the same." Considering "the same" has been drawing the US past the point of no return I don't consider it to be positive.

kamala and her vp candidate have drank tons of sperm so that might be
something different.
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Re: Kamala
By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Aug 11 2024 05:30 pm

kamala and her vp candidate have drank tons of sperm so that might be something different.
https://i.imgur.com/YrdKsor.png

What do you call Kamala when she has a runny nose?

Full.

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Re: Kamala
By: Arelor to Neofree on Sun Aug 11 2024 02:41 pm

Re: Kamala
By: Neofree to All on Mon Aug 05 2024 09:09 pm

Kamala should be the next president of the United States of America because theother two people who were running are both very old and out of touch and both
have conerns about their future mental health.

Kamala sounds to me like a whole load of "more of the same." Considering "the same" has been drawing the US past the point of no return I don't consider it to be positive.

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That's fine. Do you really want to vote in a convicted felon with 23 reported cases of sexual assualt? Yes all those case numebrs exist. One was rape of a minor too. I guess that's what money buys you. The ability to cover it up by putting fear into your victims. Bill Cosby got away with it for a long time.

At this point I'd vote for a bum on the street and say OH WELL before I voted to end the USA and become a country like Nazi Germany once was.

Trump Admires Putin. Trump Admires Kim Jong Un. Is this some crap someone made up? Nope! Watch Trumps own words.

Doesn't matter he's losing anyway.

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Neofree wrote to Arelor <=-

That's fine. Do you really want to vote in a convicted felon with 23 reported cases of sexual assualt? Yes all those case numebrs exist.
One was rape of a minor too. I guess that's what money buys you. The ability to cover it up by putting fear into your victims. Bill Cosby
got away with it for a long time.

At this point I'd vote for a bum on the street and say OH WELL before I voted to end the USA and become a country like Nazi Germany once was.

Trump Admires Putin. Trump Admires Kim Jong Un. Is this some crap
someone made up? Nope! Watch Trumps own words.

Doesn't matter he's losing anyway.

It looks like we need to put in a copium mine. There's a rich vein here.


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Re: Kamala
By: Weed Hopper to MRO on Mon Aug 12 2024 10:27 am

Ok, THAT was funny!

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Re: Kamala
By: Neofree to Arelor on Mon Aug 12 2024 07:03 pm

Explain to me how Trump admires Putin OR N Korea, please. I'm dying to see this...

And if you REALLY think Kamala is BETTER then Trump, you're either high as a kite, or jumt plain blind to stupidity.

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That's fine. Do you really want to vote in a convicted felon with 23 reported >cases of sexual assualt? Yes all those case numebrs exist. One was rape of a >minor too. I guess that's what money buys you. The ability to cover it up by >putting fear into your victims. Bill Cosby got away with it for a long time.

If Harris and the Democrats want to really show that they care about those
23 cases, they would release the Epstein client list and expose several of their own members and donors (and likely some Republicans, too) who are
likely guilty of sex crimes.

Until then, they are really on no higher ground when it comes to sexual
assualt and misconduct.


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Re: Kamala
By: KnightMare to Weed Hopper on Tue Aug 13 2024 10:00 am

Re: Kamala
By: Weed Hopper to MRO on Mon Aug 12 2024 10:27 am

Ok, THAT was funny!

Thanks, I stole it. :)

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Re: Kamala
By: Neofree to Arelor on Mon Aug 12 2024 07:03 pm

That's fine. Do you really want to vote in a convicted felon with 23 reported cases of sexual assualt? Yes all those case numebrs exist. One was rape of a minor too. I guess that's what money buys you. The ability to cover it up by putting fear into your victims. Bill Cosby got away with it for a long time.

Lol, you watch to much CNN, Racheal Madcow and the Hags at the Veiw, do you also listen to Morning Joe?
1st off it was a kangaroo court of all hardcore leftist's (including the jury).
Most charges were made up, and the others were not crimes.
All this really amounts to is leftist election interference and Biden going after a political rival.
Heels up Harris probably won't become President, She can't be trusted to command the Military of the most powerful Nation on earth.



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Re: Kamala
By: Neofree to Arelor on Mon Aug 12 2024 07:03 pm

That's fine. Do you really want to vote in a convicted felon with 23 reported cases of sexual assualt? Yes all those case numebrs exist. One was rape of a minor too. I guess that's what money buys you. The ability to cover it up by putting fear into your victims. Bill Cosby got away with it for a long time.

At this point I'd vote for a bum on the street and say OH WELL before I voted to end the USA and become a country like Nazi Germany once was.

Trump Admires Putin. Trump Admires Kim Jong Un. Is this some crap someone made up? Nope! Watch Trumps own words.

My country has a History of voting or empowering scumbags so there is nothing North Americans can teach us asbout it.

But since you want to go there, whataboutism is an awful debating strategy because by using it you are conceeding your position sucks, and then you try to convince it just sucks less than the alternatives. This might be viable, but if this was a court it would be considered Affirmative Defense, which nearly everybody agrees is an awful thing. "Sure, I confess I stole that million dollar, but I can cling to a flimsy exception in the law that may save my butt. Now I need to prove the exception applies, instead of having you force to prove I stole the money."

This is made worse by the fact the average Trump supporter can just entrench and say "Things were so good with Trump that I don't mind if he is a criminal or not." This is an utilitarian response (Utilitarism being a pilar form many Socialist movements by the way, so it would be a bit hypocritical to argue against it). Trump supporters pride themselves in being able to defend the Trump administration by pointing out its successes rather than having to resort only to tearing down ceaselessly at the opposition (which, quite frankly, is the only thing Democrats can do).


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Re: Kamala
By: Neofree to Denn on Tue Aug 06 2024 03:24 pm

She's an idiot with no plan to fix anything. Trump at least has a plan to fix the economy. Kamala doesn't even know what an economy is.

What's her plan?

Her plan is to be president, she'll stop at nothing to attain that title.
She has no clue about how an economy works.

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Re: Kamala
By: Denn to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 16 2024 12:48 pm

Her plan is to be president, she'll stop at nothing to attain that title. She has no clue about how an economy works.

If I may be so bold to add to that...

She got to the top because she was on the bottom.
She's got ZERO creditibilty. It's proven she's kept criminals longer than their sentence so CA can have cheap labor. Shes locked up people for weed, and she's ADMITTED she's smoked "and inhaled". The list is endless... i can provde more if requested.

There's an old gag question when you meet someone that's clueless and yet has a job which is CLEARLY not their forte' "Who did they blow to get this job?" Well for Cameltoe, EVERYONE that was needed to be serviced to elevate her position while elevating her own body count.

Do you REALLY think DJT has commited all those crimes? IIRC, didn't Jon Stewart DO THE EXACT SAME THING as far as valuation fuckery? Nothing happened to him... Oh yea, HE'S NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT...

Simps...

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Trump Admires Putin. Trump Admires Kim Jong Un. Is this some crap someone made up? Nope! Watch Trumps own words.

I think he was trying to think outside the box with Kim Jong Un, doing
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Trump Admires Putin. Trump Admires Kim Jong Un. Is this some crap someone made up? Nope! Watch Trumps own words.

I think he was trying to think outside the box with Kim Jong Un, doing
the same thing for decades was not working.

Exactly. Acting like a country and their leader doesn't exist unless they
are threatening South Korea or Japan was not working at all.


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